print interview

Totentanz Web Zine 2000.

1. Can you tell us what your next CD will sound like?
There was a clear evolution between the 3 Ordo Equilibrio CDs, what can we expect from "Make Love and War"?

Change is indispensably the inevitable resolution of progress, and consequently I believe evolution is also the outcome and condition of 'Make Love, And War'.

'Make Love, And War' is more melodic, more rhythmic and conceivably more 'folk' oriented in comparison to it's predecessors, but nonetheless possible to collate under the conjunct banner of OE/ORE.

2. Who will appear on this CD?
Are you going to keep the name "Ordo Equilibrio"?

The situation is such that Ordo Equilibrio is my entity, emerging as a consequence of my aesthetic yearnings.
And consequently I do not believe Chelsea's withdrawal will affect the outcome in any evident or particular extent.

I will maintain the name Ordo Equilibrio with the addition of Rosarius, as to signify the wedlock between roses and equilibrium; consequently resolving in the designation of Ordo Rosarius Equilibrio.

'Make Love, And War' was recorded recently at the studio of In Slaughter Native's, and solely involves the participation of me and my beloved lover and accomplice Rose-Marie.

3. What about your other two next releases?
What will the video look like?
Which song will it be for?

The appointed video is not merely for the purpose of visualizing one song, but more appropriately a work which involves a selection of songs from all hitherto recordings; and therewith substantiating a complete visual manifest of ORE.

The video is currently being realized, assembled and completed in association with video artist Mikael Prey; who also assisting Rose-Marie and me at our performance at the Wave Gothic Treffen on June 12th, and likely due for release later this year.

4. And what about the vinyl set?

The vinyl package '4 Life, 4 Love 4 Lust & Roses' will be completed shortly and is consequently due for release, following the release of 'Make Love, And War'.

'4 Life, 4 Love, 4 Lust & Roses' will be a strictly limited recording in 444 numbered copies in four distinctive versions, featuring 4 exclusive songs on two 7" vinyl records, all delivered in a hardcover box alongside a photography, a pair of high quality stockings & a dried rose.

5. What do you think of the works released by Archon Satani after your departure of the band?
Same question with Inanna, the current band of your ex-Archon Satani comrade.

Mikael is good friend and a seemingly competent musician, but there are genuinely more captivating constellations besides either of his aforementioned projects, but likely less invigorating constellations as well.

What Mikael accomplished following my departure from Archon Satani is fairly interesting.
'The Final Completion' is all in all a gratifying accomplishment, partially on account of Marten Sahlén's participation.
'Mind ov Flesh and Bones' is fractionally worthwhile, but 'In Shelter' is altogether an unfortunate waste of both talent and effort.

Innana initially originated as a seemingly interesting engendering with the accomplishment of 7Innana7 / Sodom, and thereafter Innana / 'Day of Torment'; but consecutively I believe it all has evolved to become less and less interesting in due course of progression.

6. Is the order of the Equilibrium something that you have managed to extend outside the boundaries of your band and of music?
Is it something you would like to do?

I have considered the possibility of extending the boundaries of ORE beyond the sole application of music, and accordingly realize a collateral, subsidiary instrument of grater and direct interactivity farther the peripheries of ORE; but so far this conjecture has solely remained a theory.

7. How did you get interested in the fetish scene?
Since you said yourself that the music played in most fetish clubs isn't worth anything, how were you drawn to this?

I sincerely hope and cling to believe that anyone associated to the Fetish scene anywhere wasn't compelled to it by virtue of it's affiliated music, but much rather by reason its affiliated practices as a consequence of realizing an intrinsic preference....

I did not say that the music in most fetish clubs was worthless, (I suppose Madonna and the Village People could be occasionally suitable and/or entertaining), but more appropriately that the music customarily played was dull, thoroughly unimaginative and unnecessarily conventional.
It could certainly be replaced with Gitane Demone, Demonix and Die Form to mention but a few.

I have as far as I can remember always had an intrinsic affinity for the allegedly unconventional; anxiously insinuated to me by various agitated persons throughout my child and adulthood surroundings; whether the affinity was affiliated to my individual operations or the preferences of my very being.

These preferences have thenceforth evolved alongside the intellectual, spiritual, sexual and emotional ascent of my being; withstood, and correspondingly extended throughout my life, and consequently become convoked as customary affiliations converged with other preferences of my very nature and being.
As for sexual preferences pertaining to my fetish affinity for stockings and corsets, alongside the appreciation of assorted activities associated to bondage and domination.
And which altogether successively have converged to erect the philosophical, spiritual and sexual establishment of my musical preferences, my very being, alongside Ordo Rosarius Equilibrio.

Throughout my hitherto existence I have come to realize that I enjoy sex.
I find it physically and psychically liberating in any consensual and voluntary form, and particularly associated with my personal infatuation for Stockings, Corsets & High Heels; but likewise in addition to assorted ventures of sadomasochism, along with Bondage & Domination.
This is where I find an intrinsic variety of stimulating constituents as part of my sexual gratification; erecting an undeniable extent of my individual desire, appreciation and sexual nature.

These attractions and practices are however not a substitute to any supposedly accustomed and ordinary sex, but more willingly a gratifying extension of the conventional sexual practices individually appreciated and exercised.
And accordingly utilized as I find them exciting and personally gratifying; conferring me, along with any eventual relationship in which I am engaged, with an additional magnitude of trust, excitement and respect.

8. Have you ever performed in the context of a fetish event?

Unfortunately not.
The fetish community in Sweden has a dreadful taste in music, and unless we are invited to perform as part of such an event elsewhere, I sincerely doubt it will ever occur.

9. The artwork of the Ordo Equilibrio CDs were very special among the CMI layouts.
Most of all, the cover of "Conquest, Love and Self Perseverance", which I found brilliant, surprised many people.
To what extent did you design them?
What can we expect from the graphics for your next release?

'Reaping the Fallen, the First Harvest' & 'The Triumph of Light, and Thy Thirteen Shadows of Love' was designed by Roger but supervised by my directives.
'Conquest, Love & Self Perseverance' was however designed by me, and solely assembled by Roger, which likewise is the situation with 'Make Love, And War' which is currently being perfected.

10. You EP "141" is said to mean "an eye for an eye".
Is it the way to the equilibrium?

The appointed title is 'I4I' and not '141' as innumerable seem to believe, and which farther is an implication of 'Me for Myself' rather than essentially seeking to ascertain the more one dimensional discernment of 'An Eye for an Eye'.

Equilibrium is not necessarily attained in affiliation to the utilization of an eye for and eye, as I believe balance is a condition of consistency between polarities.
It is the state where compromise is needless and poise is accomplished intrinsically by virtue of natural alignment, and where natural as opposed to forced alignment, is a condition accomplished without enforcement; a status that emerges uncontrived by virtue of the intrinsic regularities of nature.

Equilibrium can be the condition of sexual emancipation alongside the tangibility of sexual frustration.
Consecutively generating a condition of perpetual desire and explicit creation.

Equilibrium can be the premeditated projection of disproportion and ambiguity in the context of harmony.
As through the application of Ordo Rosarius Equilibrio, in attempt to realize ambiguity and contemplation with regards to the factual signification of good & evil, light & dark, love & hate, male & female etc., etc.

Equilibrium should however not be the enduring conjecture of being solely for the purpose of being, which indeed suggests a condition of stagnation.
And consequently if the condition of balance is not progression, it is requisite of alteration.

11. In the same direction, what do you think of the death penalty?

Infraction requires equitable punishment; punishment befitting the severity of the infliction. Justice is not necessarily or exclusively served by the ruling of an eye for an eye, but there should nevertheless be conspicuous infliction for conspicuous acts of needless transgression; acts of serial and multiple rape should equal death without exception; and so forth.
Mankind should consequently be conscious and responsible for its individual actions, and therewith liable to suffer the consequences of its conduct and misconduct.

As far as we dismiss the judicial confluence of making transgressors 'run the gauntlet' to retaliate their infractions, I believe the death penalty could serve as an occasionally equitable punishment.

12. In what sense does the concept of equilibrium deal with self-confidence?

Are we indeed sure it does, or are we merely sadly mistaken?

13. Apart from obvious sources like Nietzsche, what artists have inspired you?

Collateral forms of aesthetic accomplishments have inspired my past, present and future - film as well as photography, photography as well as literature - such as for instance - films by Tinto Bras, Andrew Blake & David Lynch - photography by Richard Kern - and literature by Daniil Charms to mention but a few.

14. The last song on "The 13 shadows of Love" has a very explicit engaged politics lyrics.
What's the point of this track? Do you want to be seen as a political band?
Would you still write a song like this one now?

I do not particularly wish to be recognized as a political band as I believe such a categorization hardly would assist either ORE or me.
But I do nonetheless maintain political opinions pertaining to a variety subjects - and which I suppose; unless you recognize them as a separate entity unrelated to ORE, could be recognized as a political agenda.

I wish for the decline of the European Union, as it is solely an instrument of continuing financial gain and further totalitarianism.

I wish for the liberation of drugs, as I believe everyone should be permitted to conduct themselves according to their own individual will, determination and desire, and therewith ultimately be responsible for themselves and their individual conduct and misconduct.

I endorse sexual voyeurism, homosexuality and any other form of consensus sex, as I believe each and everyone should act voluntarily and sensibly in accordance to their individual desires.

Democracy is but the political deception of letting people believe that they possess power along with the power of change.

Democracy is a political justification of integral and individual rape.
51 voters deciding in favor of decapitating the other 50 is not an uncommon consequence of the democratic process.

Dictatorship is unfortunately not an option for me, even though history proves that people easily yields to promises of guidance and alleged compassion of superior authority.

Individualism is the only option.
Lets overthrow the current political and religious establishment, and thereby cause the natural evolution of a new sociological order by way of the individual.
Who besides me is justified and capable of deciding on my behalf.
Should I not be allowed to act according to me free will as far as I am willing to accept the consequences of my actions?
I believe I should.

15. How do you perform live since Chelsea's departure?
How do you handle the female vocals?

The intrinsic essence of Ordo Equilibrio is I, and I still withstand.
Consequently I sincerely doubt that Chelsea's departure has or will affect ORE in any conspicuous or substantial way.
Whether or not this condition hence will resolve in the incorporation and wedlock of another participant I choose to leave unanswered. I maintain my hopes and desires, but whether they will realize or not remains to resolve.

I have performed live once since the incident of Chelsea's departure last year and which seemingly appeared to be a success judging form ensuing reactions and critique.
And there is furthermore the prospect of additional performances throughout Europe this upcoming summer and autumn, so I believe there is the opportunity to adapt, evolve and prevail.

16. When I saw you live at the second Nights of the Abyss, all the guitars were recorded.
Have ever been interested by playing them live on stage, like you do with the drums?

I have considered the possibility, but I believe the music I conduct is preferably conceived in association with recorded guitars and the instrumentation of percussion's and song; especially as I believe this orchestration more efficiently renders the atmosphere I venture to attain.

17. During this same concert in Belgium, there was a girl in underwear on stage who didn't do anything but sit and take a phallic candle in her hands.
Was this "performance" something you had planned or had she begged to do this?

Wouldn't I have loved the situation if she had incidentally volunteered to participate half-naked on stage?
But this was unfortunately not the situation.
I had asked for her participation in advance, in attempt to meet with the wonder a naked, kneeling woman on stage engendered in Leipzig.

18. What to do the morning after a big hangover?

Drink large quantities of Coke, eat pizza and try to evade the incident of vomiting.